Gayatri Devi is a nationally recognized neurologist specializing in memory disorders, including Alzheimer’s disease and related dementias. In this episode, Gayatri explains how to think about dementia as a spectrum—including Alzheimer’s disease, vascular dementia, Lewy body dementia, and mixed presentations—while exploring the evolving biology of amyloid, tau, and neuroinflammation and why brain pathology does not always correlate with symptoms. She discusses her approach to detecting subtle cognitive decline in high-functioning individuals, the role of biomarkers and APOE4 testing in asymptomatic patients, the benefits and risks of anti-amyloid therapies such as lecanemab and donanemab, and strategies for minimizing treatment-related complications. Gayatri also examines why some patients may stabilize or even improve with individualized care, the overlap among different dementia syndromes, and the relationship between menopause, estrogen, and cognition—including her concept of menopause-related cognitive impairment. Finally, she discusses how advances in early detection, AI-assisted monitoring, targeted therapies, and precision medicine are reshaping the future of dementia care.

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  • Gayatri’s training and clinical focus, why dementia is a spectrum disease, and how personalized treatment is changing Alzheimer’s care [A: 3:45, V: 0:11];
  • How Alzheimer’s disease fits within the broader spectrum of dementia: diagnosis, biomarkers, and early pathophysiology [A: 7:15, V: 3:55];
  • The emerging role of neuroinflammation and viral infections in Alzheimer’s disease [A: 13:30, V: 10:45];
  • Gayatri’s comprehensive approach to evaluating cognitive decline in high-functioning patients [A: 17:45, V: 15:18];
  • Why forgetting names is usually normal and when word-finding problems become concerning [A: 29:00, V: 27:30];
  • Why women are at higher risk for Alzheimer’s disease and how menopause influences cognition [A: 33:45, V: 32:26];
  • The promise and limitations of blood-based biomarkers for diagnosing Alzheimer’s disease [A: 40:15, V: 39:20];
  • When preclinical Alzheimer’s screening is appropriate and how to interpret positive biomarker results [A: 45:00, V: 44:22];
  • Case study: early Alzheimer’s prevention in a highly-functional woman in her 50s with two copies of APOE4 [A: 47:15, V: 46:51];
  • Anti-amyloid therapies: balancing clinical benefit with ARIA risk using slow titration [A: 51:45, V: 51:32];
  • The aducanumab controversy, why it was discontinued, and why Gayatri would still choose it [A: 1:00:00, V: 1:00:17];
  • How anti-amyloid therapies cause ARIA, strategies for detecting and managing these complications, and how future therapies may improve safety and accessibility [A: 1:03:30, V: 1:03:51];
  • Two patient examples of exceptional responses to anti-amyloid therapy [A: 1:12:30, V: 1:13:20];
  • A multimodal approach to Alzheimer’s treatment: combination therapy, MRI-guided TMS, GLP-1 receptor agonists, and more [A: 1:15:00, V: 1:15:52];
  • Vascular dementia, Lewy body dementia, and the overlap with Alzheimer’s disease [A: 1:21:00, V: 1:22:30];
  • Lewy body dementia and Parkinson’s disease: distinguishing two alpha-synuclein disorders [A: 1:26:45, V: 1:28:31];
  • Risk factors for Lewy body dementia and what remains unknown [A: 1:36:15, V: 1:38:33];
  • Treating menopause-related cognitive impairment: hormone therapy, brain rehabilitation, and balancing breast cancer risk [A: 1:38:45, V: 1:41:11];
  • How biomarkers changed Gayatri’s perspective on the potential for Alzheimer’s patients to improve [A: 1:47:15, V: 1:50:01];
  • The future of Alzheimer’s care: AI, precision medicine, and personalized treatment [A: 1:49:30, V: 1:52:28]; and
  • More.

Show Notes

Gayatri’s training and clinical focus, why dementia is a spectrum disease, and how personalized treatment is changing Alzheimer’s care [A: 3:45, V: 0:11]

  • Alzheimer’s disease is a topic discussed a number of times on the podcast 
  • Gayatri is a physician that is near and dear to Peter’s practice
    • She co-manages a number of high risk patients
    • Peter has always been impressed by the way she has taken a very personalized approach to managing this condition

Gayatri is both a neurologist and a psychiatrist 

  • She is board certified in multiple specialties: neurology, psychiatry, brain injury medicine, pain medicine, and behavioral neurology
  • But her subspecialty is really memory disorders primarily from a neurological perspective

All these other areas allow her to better handle people with cognitive impairment 

As you think about the evolution of your career when you started (which is not that many years ago, you’re still quite young), to where you are today, what has been the biggest shift in your understanding of the dementing conditions that we’re going to talk about today? 

  • 1 – Over the years of her practice, she has come to realize that pretty much all dementing conditions and particularly Alzheimer’s disease can present variably depending on the person who has the condition and also depending on comorbidities

There really is a spectrum aspect to Alzheimer’s and dementias, which people don’t recognize.”‒ Gayatri Devi

  • People think of it as an all or nothing disease and that’s NOT true 
  • Much like autism, it really can span the spectrum from very mild impairment that doesn’t get worse to severe impairment that kind of deteriorates rapidly
  • 2 – What’s really exciting is that the field now almost feels as if she was an infectious disease doctor who is practicing medicine before and after penicillin was discovered.

There are now so many different ways that we can treat dementias, we can personalize our treatment 

  • We can give each person the right cocktail of medications that would best benefit them 
  • And we now have drugs that can alter the course of the disease, which is absolutely fantastic
  • We still have a ways to go, but Gayatri feels like we’re on the threshold of something really grand
  • And that’s what Peter wants to talk most about today, but first there’s some groundwork he’d like to lay to bring the listeners along with us 

How Alzheimer’s disease fits within the broader spectrum of dementia: diagnosis, biomarkers, and early pathophysiology [A: 7:15, V: 3:55]

 We are not dealing with binary diseases 

Can you go a little deeper into this idea of what the spectrum of Alzheimer’s disease looks like? 

Define Alzheimer’s disease within the broader context of dementia 

And then walk us through the different subtypes and how a clinician is able to arrive at that diagnosis 

  • Dementia is the umbrella term

A dementation of the brain means that there is loss of connectivity between the brain cells that results in a loss of function and it’s a progressive condition 

  • There are several different types of dementia, Alzheimer’s being the most common

Gayatri explains, “Alzheimer’s is defined as is a loss of synaptic connections or synaptic connectivity that results in a loss of function that is driven by the presence of extraneuronal amyloid plaques, intraneuronal or intracellular tangles (neurofibrillary tangles), and increasingly what we now know to be inflammation in the supporting microglial cells and other glial cells of the brain substrate that cause cognitive impairment that progresses.

So the question is, how do you make this diagnosis in a person? 

  • And that’s really difficult because you have to really have a high index of suspicion, particularly with people who are very intelligent, people who are very functional, people who are able to compensate very well
    • So that you can have someone who has moderate pathology and even severe pathology, and they can still perform very well in many areas because they have a good brain reserve
    • They have a resilience in their brain that prevents the kind of cognitive and functional deterioration that someone who has less reserve and less brain resilience doesn’t have

And there are many different subtypes of Alzheimer’s disease depending on the part of the brain that’s affected 

  • You can have an Alzheimer’s disease that primarily affects memory versus Alzheimer’s that can affect more the visuospatial system
  • So it depends on the area of the brain where the pathology tends to predominate and it also depends on secondary conditions

When you’re looking at Alzheimer’s disease, first of all, you want to establish that the person has these plaques and tangles 

  • And that’s something we can get into later because there are 2 groups of thought on that
    • 1 – There are people who will diagnose Alzheimer’s based on biological biomarkers alone
    • 2 – There is another group that says you need to have biomarkers plus clinical symptoms (a functional deficit) to make the diagnosis

⇒ The biomarkers are amyloid, tau, and increasingly neuroinflammation 

Other genetic conditions that are dispositive in their prediction of a person developing Alzheimer’s disease 

  • We have talked about the APOE genotype, which is probably one of the most common genetic predisposing factors, although not the strongest

What starts this process? Pathophysiologically, what is the order of operations? 

  • Peter wonders if it starts with inflammation?
    • If it starts with the deposition of amyloid?
    • If it starts with the tangles?
    • If it is different in every person?
    • If it is different by location in the brain?
  • Generally speaking, it used to be thought that amyloid was the first abnormality that begins in the brain up to 2-3 decades even before the onset of clinical symptoms 
  • But now we’re beginning to understand that changes in the inflammatory pathways may predate amyloid deposition by quite some time

So it may be that first neuroimmunological changes, then amyloid, and then eventually down the road tau 

  • And that ultimately causes synaptic dysfunction where the synapses, the connections between the nerve cells start to go awry and the person then develops cognitive changes

And that process takes decades 

Gayatri explains, “The whole point, I think with with Alzheimer’s and other dementias is if you can intervene early enough (even as early as your 30s into your 40s) by incorporating anti-inflammatory methodology, anti-inflammatory activities into your lifestyle, then perhaps you can prevent the whole cascade from being triggered.

The emerging role of neuroinflammation and viral infections in Alzheimer’s disease [A: 13:30, V: 10:45]

One thing Peter has become much more aggressive in his practice is around managing 2 viruses: herpes simplex virus and varicella zoster

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Gayatri Devi, M.D.

Gayatri Devi earned a master’s degree at Columbia University, then a medical degree from St. Georges University School of Medicine. She completed a residency at State University of NY Health Science Center/Brooklyn and a fellowship at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons. Dr Devi is multi-board certified in neurology, pain medicine, psychiatry, brain injury medicine, and behavioral neurology. 

Gayatri Devi MD, MS, FACP, FAAN is currently a clinical professor of neurology & psychiatry at Zucker School of Medicine at Northwell Health. She is the founder and director of Park Avenue Neurology. She is also an attending physician at Lenox Hill hospital. Dr. Devi practices personalized medicine, diagnosing and managing complex neurological disorders. For nearly thirty years, her focus has been on brain health, concussions, Alzheimer’s and other dementias, menopause related memory loss, and pain. She has authored numerous peer-reviewed publications, and the books The Spectrum of Hope: An Optimistic and New Approach to Alzheimer’s Disease and Other Dementias (2017) and A Calm Brain: How to Relax into a Stress-Free, High-Powered Life (2012). [nybrain.org]

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